This is the story of Twine.com — our early research (with never before seen screenshots of our early semantic desktop work), and our evolution from Twine 1.0 towards Twine 2.0 (“T2”) which is focused on semantic search.
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As a Twine user and someone who is deeply vested in the adoption of Semantic Technology I'm a bit disappointed to see Twine merging into Evri.
A couple of observations though:
1 – The assumption that all metadata must by dynamically & automatically generated seemed like a bit of a all or nothing decision – and it perhaps didn't need to be. While you're right about folks being tired of tagging or perhaps not very good at it – people are good at organizing things the way they feel most comfortable.
2 – Twine might have made an interesting platform for a Personal Learning Environment.
3 – The collaborative aspects of the environment were neglected a bit and this is where the tool could have become really interesting from a user perspective (Twine as the nexus for blogging and wiki knowledge and activity).
If you've ever interested in starting up something else & want some ideas let me know…
As a Twine user and someone who is deeply vested in the adoption of Semantic Technology I'm a bit disappointed to see Twine merging into Evri.
A couple of observations though:
1 – The assumption that all metadata must by dynamically & automatically generated seemed like a bit of a all or nothing decision – and it perhaps didn't need to be. While you're right about folks being tired of tagging or perhaps not very good at it – people are good at organizing things the way they feel most comfortable.
2 – Twine might have made an interesting platform for a Personal Learning Environment.
3 – The collaborative aspects of the environment were neglected a bit and this is where the tool could have become really interesting from a user perspective (Twine as the nexus for blogging and wiki knowledge and activity).
If you've ever interested in starting up something else & want some ideas let me know…
Hi Stephen,
I am not much of a blogger but I thought your intelligent comments deserved a reply. Too much of the blogging says nothing of any value.
You hit the nail right on the head with comment #1 and #3, not sure about #2 but you could be right there too. Anyway, as one who firmly believes in the 80/20 rule, I also think they tried to go too far. But I did like what I saw in the presentations. Don't know if it worked that way or not in real time. Not crazy about Evri after playing with it a bit today. Would appreciate your opinion.
I have been watching the semantic web for years but just freed up enough time to dig in more deeply. I was really liking what little I saw of T2 and feel badly for Nova, but I understand the financing dilemma. One of my biotech client companies was ready to go to financing with 80% promised subscription just before Sept 2008 and they ended up getting zero. Everyone except two guys backed out and that was not enough to get even close to closing the financing.
I am actually thinking about starting something in the semantic space. I talked to some VC friends about it and they think it has possibilities but it needs to be further developed. Unlike Twine, I am not looking to be the next Google (or Babe Ruth), just want a solid home run so I can kick up the retirement a few notches.
What is your background? Should we talk?
Best regards,
Mike
Hi Stephen,
I am not much of a blogger but I thought your intelligent comments deserved a reply. Too much of the blogging says nothing of any value.
You hit the nail right on the head with comment #1 and #3, not sure about #2 but you could be right there too. Anyway, as one who firmly believes in the 80/20 rule, I also think they tried to go too far. But I did like what I saw in the presentations. Don't know if it worked that way or not in real time. Not crazy about Evri after playing with it a bit today. Would appreciate your opinion.
I have been watching the semantic web for years but just freed up enough time to dig in more deeply. I was really liking what little I saw of T2 and feel badly for Nova, but I understand the financing dilemma. One of my biotech client companies was ready to go to financing with 80% promised subscription just before Sept 2008 and they ended up getting zero. Everyone except two guys backed out and that was not enough to get even close to closing the financing.
I am actually thinking about starting something in the semantic space. I talked to some VC friends about it and they think it has possibilities but it needs to be further developed. Unlike Twine, I am not looking to be the next Google (or Babe Ruth), just want a solid home run so I can kick up the retirement a few notches.
What is your background? Should we talk?
Best regards,
Mike